Captions by Steffi Dryden. Captions were made with the support of NZ On Air. www.able.co.nz Copyright Able 2021 (REFLECTIVE MUSIC) (REFLECTIVE MUSIC CONTINUES) (MUSIC FADES) - I was, sort of, surprised at Lindy Chamberlain's attitude all the way through the case. You know, her emotions haven't showed, really, much at all. - That a few weeks before Azaria did disappear, she fell out of the supermarket trolley. - Northern Territory government's a law unto itself. Just got itself re-elected by a massive... - And I'll understand how they could have convicted Lindy on the evidence. If they'd have listened to the eyewitnesses... (DRAMATIC MUSIC) (CAMERAS CLICK) (HAUNTING PIANO MUSIC) - It was the story of the moment. It was so unbelievable. Nobody- nobody could scarcely believe what they'd heard. - At every dinner party or barbecue you went to in that time, I can guarantee you the conversation would eventually come around to that discussion ` were they guilty or not guilty? What happened? And everybody would have an opinion. - My friends outside of journalism, my family, who knew even less, had made their mind up about whether she was guilty. And most, it seemed, in my circle, thought she was guilty. - Lindy's got this persona about her that most of people, because I know, I've got a lot of friends that still don't like her, she has got this thing about her that a lot of people will judge. When the barrier is stripped, you actually find a really lovely woman. You know, that, um, that has gone through a lot, you know. And I feel very sorry for her and I am privileged to be her friend. - If you're in a place, and something happens... um, and you were innocent... it's very scary. Lindy and Michael were just on holidays with their family and they just got thrown out in the cold, and nobody cared. - Grief is the price we pay for love. And if you have a lot of love, you have a lot of grief. But your life is richer for those that we love and lost. (BABY CRIES) Hello to Gran and Grandad. She's, uh... Azaria's just been saying hello to you. Can you hear her grunting in the background? Four weeks and two-and-a-half hours ago today. - Hello, Nanny Chamberlain. Hello, Mummy Chamberlain. Hello, big boy Aidan Chamberlain, and hello to middle-sized boy, Reagan Chamberlain. And hello and welcome to tiny-weeny baby boy Chamberlain. Isn't it lovely to have another little baby brother? - You tell, you tell Gran and Grandad what you said when you heard their tape about her being a little boy. - It isn't a little boy. It's a little girl. You silly ding-dongs. - Yes, that's right. That's exactly what he said; they're silly ding-dongs. (LAUGHS) We still get a giggle out of that. We reckon we're going to keep the front of that tape and play it on our wedding day, aren't we? - Seventh-day Adventist Pastor Michael Chamberlain and his wife, Lindy, took their young family for a holiday to Central Australia. (CONTEMPLATIVE MUSIC) - LINDY: I brought Azaria up here with the boys. And while we're sitting here we're waiting for Michael, taking shots of the paintings in the cave and a bus tour pulled up. Just talking to the tourists and sensed something watching us. Looked up and saw the dingo. And I spoke to the people beside me and said, 'Look what's watching us.' Despite the fact of their movement, and Reagan, in order to see the dingo, was talking and calling out. The animal seemed to fix its eye on me and the baby the whole time. It sort of made me feel a little bit creepy as an animal usually watches movement in the vicinity. This one didn't seem to. It just seemed to be intently watching me and the baby. - On the first morning at Uluru, Michael Chamberlain went out photographing. Among the pictures he took was this picture of his baby daughter and her mother. It was to be the last day of Azaria's life. - MICHAEL: I thought I heard Azaria give a short, sharp cry. I wasn't sure. - Well, she hadn't been back very long and Aidan said, 'I think that's bubby.' I'd heard the cry, too, but I didn't take much notice. - I was there at the time the baby cried out. I did not hear it myself, but I did hear Mike and Aidan suggest to Lindy that that was a baby. - And I said to Lindy, 'Look, you better go check on Azaria.' And she started to walk down here, as far as I know, and got halfway across there and saw an animal, and then kept on moving, but a lot more quickly. - I could only see the dingo from, sort of, the top of the shoulders up, but he came out in such a hurry. I thought, 'There's no food in there, but he just might have damaged or mauled the baby.' And I ran towards the tent. I was only five yards away from it, perhaps. And I looked in her carry basket and she wasn't there. And I felt all round the tent just to make sure that he hadn't dropped her somewhere because I couldn't see how he could get out in such a hurry, but... - I was still talking to Mike at that stage. And all of a sudden this piercing yell comes across, her now-famous cry. - And I just yelled, I... there wasn't time to go and tell people. I just yelled out, 'Has anyone got a torch? A dingo's got my baby.' - Such a rotten, horrifying experience. - (SNIFFLES) - I heard a dog growl. Shortly afterwards I heard Lindy say something. Then Judy went outside, and came back and said, 'Something terrible has happened,' and dingo's taken the baby. - LINDY: On the night of Azaria's disappearance, Judy West... she said to me afterwards, 'I can't believe I did it. 'But we just couldn't believe our ears. We'd heard the dingo growl. 'And then, very shortly afterwards, you'd cried out 'and it was like, "Did I really hear that? '"Is it possible?" 'And you were out searching. There was no one round to ask. 'And I saw Aidan standing behind the tent and I went up and said, '"Has the dingo taken your baby?" And she said, 'I can't believe I asked a child that. 'He turned and looked at me and said, "The dingo's got our baby in its tummy."' And she said there was no question of did he know what was happening. But once I'd seen in the tent, I actually was unaware that he was following me back to the tent and I'm so glad I was in front of him so he didn't see. But, for years, we didn't know that he blamed himself for not zipping up the tent and didn't realise that the zip was broken. But it would have made no difference. They were smart enough to get in. - That's when Lindy came up to the van calling out that she wanted a torch or something, and she said, 'A dingo's taken my baby.' And I said, 'How do you know? 'W-Where did it... Where did the dingo go? Where did it go?' And she said, 'That way.' So I said that, you know, I'll go out and look. - I was unaware of the time that the pool of... about the pool of blood that was on Reagan's mattress. Sally Lowe saw that when one of the kids started to cry. And she went over and then she's like, 'Oh, there's no doubt this child is dead. That's a lot of blood.' - I recall Lindy saying to Michael, 'Do you think it's possible 'that someone came into the tent and took the baby? Perhaps someone's taken her.' And Michael turned to her, and said to her quite softly, 'But what about the blood?' - You're in the car. The kids are sleeping in the tent. And somebody said, 'Oh, I wouldn't have stayed there,' you know. 'I wouldn't have sat there. 'I'd have been out searching. I'd have been this and that. We were out searching... both of us, until a cop said, 'You have got to stay here. 'If we find her, we don't want to then be going out searching for you.' And, you know, you get all these letters saying, 'Oh, well, I wouldn't have done that.' You don't have a clue what you'd do until you're there and then you solve the needful problem. And, yeah, I'm aware some people would have just (EXCLAIMS). But I... I'm not like that. To me, it's 'What is the immediate thing that needs to be done?' And my first thought was she cried and she's not making any more noise. - All night, there was a frantic search. Aboriginal trackers, park rangers and searchers found dingo tracks. The next day, Michael and Lindy gave their statements to the police, who suggested the Chamberlains, shocked and grieved, prepare for their long drive home to Mount Isa. But first, there was the press to meet. It was a unique story. - A full-scale search in the Ayers Rock area today failed to find... - ...search for 10-week-old Azaria Chamberlain is continuing... - ...believed to have been taken by a dingo or wild dog... - The parents rushed to the tent to investigate. The baby was gone from her cot. - ...Seventh-day Adventist minister... - ...continued searching around the rock early today. - In the first couple of days after Azaria died, if somebody'd walked up to me with a shotgun and said they were going to shoot me, I'd have said, 'Go ahead.' I... I wouldn't have cared less. (CONTEMPLATIVE MUSIC) My mum's father died when she was three and her mum died when she was 15. She was born on a farm and she was really shy. Eventually, she went to live with her auntie, where she met my dad. My dad was the first one in his family. At 14, he became a Christian and he decided theology was for him. - The Adventist Church was part of, what's called the Great Awakening, in the 19th century, where Christians from many denominations became really engaged with the Bible idea of Jesus returning again. The Seventh-day Adventist Church rose out of that general movement in Europe and the USA. - My dad, he would always say, 'You need to try and put yourself in the other person's shoes 'and look at something from their point of view.' And the other thing that he taught me was 'Out of the shadows, into the sunshine.' Get it, face it, deal with it. Move on, get past it. And particularly in this situation that I ended up in, that was gold. - Back in Mount Isa, the Chamberlains tried to get back to normal life. Lindy heard on television that Azaria's jumpsuit had been found, but not the matinee jacket the baby was wearing on the night. Police suspected human interference. - The police could have easily told us the clothes had been found, but no, we learnt off the news. And so I raced out. My first view was on the news of some guys sitting there with no gloves on, handling the clothes, fiddling with them. - What we have here is some articles that have just come up from Ayers Rock. As you can see, the... the jumpsuit here has got certain heavy staining in this area. Also, the singlet itself has got fairly heavy staining on it. - The night the rumours hit, the tooting started past the house. Day or night, it didn't seem to matter. Um, calling out or whistling. If we're in the yard, they'd yell things at you as they went past. If you went down the street, if they recognised you, the talking would very quickly stop. If they didn't recognise you, the person next to you at the counter while you were waiting to be served was discussing you. - We couldn't understand why people had accused us of naming Azaria, giving her a name that meant 'sacrifice in the wilderness.' It never would have meant that. It meant 'blessed of God.' And that was the reason, the beautiful reason why we chose her name. - There was another rumour suggesting that the eldest boy, Aidan, had murdered his baby sister and that the parents were covering up for it. And then these bizarre theories grew and multiplied. And they put out shoots, almost, put out tendrils, and they became ever more elaborate. - Some have said that we paid people to fake her death. - There was speculation that there was some strange ritual, some satanic ritual. All these, sorts of, allegations, I suppose, if we could put it like that. - One that she was sold into white slavery in Southeast Asia. There's one that a giant bat had come and taken the baby. There were endless theories. One was lions had taken her, which lived at part of Ayers Rock, which tourists didn't visit. - Some maintain that it's an Aboriginal woman and rabbit's blood been sprinkled around the tent and that we knew about it and staged it. - Oh, they had a coffin. They prepared a coffin for the human sacrifice, a little baby coffin. That coffin did exist, but they were the Seventh-day Adventists giving public talks to people about giving up smoking. - Perhaps the one that distressed me the most was that Azaria was ill-treated. That we were child bashers, etc. And the one coupled with it ` that she was an abnormal baby and so we didn't want her. - 'Lindy, you should be hung up to the nearest tree. '99.5% of the people know you are guilty. - 'Murderer, murderer. 'You murdered the baby because it wasn't normal. 'Your husband should divorce you and get a good woman as a wife, not a murderer. - 'If you did not kill your baby, then your son did. 'Apparently it's a crime to drink tea and coffee, but not to kill.' - LINDY: You're those odd people who are vegetarians. You- You don't smoke. You don't drink. No, we're not a secret society. No, we're not a sect. Pretty much most churches across the board, about three-quarters of their beliefs are very, very similar. It's just the fine-tuning that's not. * - Lindy's parents, Avis and Pastor Cliff Murchison, who never got the chance to meet their granddaughter, joined the family at a memorial service for Azaria. At the same time, media speculation around the Seventh-day Adventist Church intensified. - So here's a clergyman in trouble. I think Australian culture, part of it, said, 'Oh, we always knew these clergy were phoneys. 'And this is a strange religion on top of that, so there's got to be something here to be unpacked.' - With an increasing number of reporters and journalists chasing the story and spurious gossip and innuendo swirling around them, Lindy and Michael continued to cooperate. Lindy agreed to do interviews primarily to warn people about the danger dingoes posed at Uluru. - It would seem difficult for a dog to get the baby out. I mean, the legs are still intact. The right arm is still intact. - If you've ever seen a dingo eat, there's... there's no difficulty at all, because you watch them eat the carcass of a cow or something like that, they never eat the skin. They use their feet like hands and pull back the skin as they go. And they'll just peel it like an orange. - It was quite calculated and very detailed. And it seemed unemotional. Yes, that's how it appeared. That's how it came across. - I just remember seeing this woman that really had no feelings. I didn't think much of Lindy myself. - It does, to the, to the layman at least, look impossible for an animal to get a baby out of, of those clothing like that. - And I have to say, when I first saw the interview, I was a bit concerned by the apparent attitude too. But at the Royal Commission, we were able to get hold of the full tape recording, including all of the, uh, all of the takes, and we were able to see the process unfold. It began with the journalists saying, 'Mrs Chamberlain, what happened to your baby?' And she began to answer and choked up in distress and burst into tears. They said, 'Take one... Uh, take two. Start again. 'Mrs Chamberlain, what happened to your baby?' She got a little bit further and choked up again. And they said, 'Look, Lindy, if you're going to have... 'if you're going to get your message out there, you really are going to have to control yourself. 'Now, try again. Get your emotions under control and try to answer our questions.' And so they persevered. What actually went to air was take seven. - READS: If people had witnessed and listened to the heart-rending sobbing that we have on so many occasions, they would understand the depth and grief, the heart brokenness that Lindy experienced. She has never been one to let the world see how she feels. They would know that she is not hard and uncaring. - The moment the press arrived and from the time that television cameras rolled onto our faces, this prevented us from experiencing any further form of bereavement. In other words, secondary and tertiary forms, where we, we just couldn't... well, at least I couldn't feel that her death had really occurred. I wasn't allowed to grieve her death. - How do you grieve? As a believing Christian, I believe that we can handle it much easier because we have a future. Death is a sleep and we sleep with it. - That is something that possibly made some people suspicious. They thought a mother who's just lost a baby would go round screaming and shouting and so on. But people react in different ways to crises. And of course, people of religion and faith can sometimes have comforters that others who don't have that certainty in life, don't have. - Probably the saddest words Michael ever said to me was he said, 'You know, through all of this, the saddest thing for me is I can't remember...' (SNIFFLES) '...what Azaria looked like.' Tragic. That's awful. Sorry, I still get emotional. But a father couldn't remember his baby. It all swamped in. Completely wiped out the memory. (REFLECTIVE MUSIC) - With the Chamberlains back in Mount Isa, Alice Springs detective Graeme Charlwood took charge of the investigation. The matinee jacket Lindy said Azaria was wearing when she disappeared hadn't been found, and speculation was rife in the press. Overseeing the collection of evidence for the first coronial inquest, Charlwood travelled to Mount Isa to interview the Chamberlains. The first coronial inquest was held in Alice Springs. Lindy and Michael arrived at the Alice Springs courthouse to a media scrum. - I got hit several occasions in the face with the big camera. And then you've got to keep smiling and pretend it didn't happen, because if you smile and act normal, well, you're very hard-hearted. And if you cry, you're acting. - Newspaper circulation and television ratings dramatically increased when the Chamberlain story was featured. the more the media focussed on Lindy's appearance, clothes and demeanour, the more the public wanted. - But it was a very much more sexist time then. We're talking 40 years ago. There weren't very many women journalists even then. If they were they were in subordinate roles. There weren't very many women politicians. And so, Lindy was therefore fair game simply on account of her gender, simply because she was a woman. She was obviously the black-hearted witch, the fiend, the bitch, and could be treated as such. I think Lindy had to carry a special burden because she was a woman. - Yeah, I think that the way that men are reading this is, 'Ooh, she looks tough,' or, 'Jeez, she's hard, and she's got a hard face.' or, 'Gee, she's a good sort.' You know, I think there's a lot of sexualised viewing of Lindy in this moment. And, you know, a sexy woman can't be a good mother. - There were one or two journalists who were infatuated by, by Lindy. I mean, I was struck by the fact that here she was dressed up like a lady ready to go out on the town. Standing beside her was her husband, who looked more like he was ready to take a church service. I mean, she actually stood out. - LINDY: Most of the reporters themselves, about 98% of them, were very nice and very reasonable. By the time it got to their subeditors who changed their stories a little, or put the headings on the top, or put photos to go with it, then it became a different story. - Fuelled by sensational headlines, the public rushed to judgement. - 'You murdered Azaria and your husband knew you planned the murder because you made a black dress 'to bury her. You both should be ashamed of yourselves.' - 'I have been following your case, and when I heard that you broke down 'and weep I too cry for you because I know you didn't kill your baby. 'I too am a mother, of twelve. I have five sons and seven daughters...' - READS: - 'Dear, Lindy, I'd love to meet you very soon to give you a hug 'as one troubled mother to another. With much love and very sincerely.' - It's a traumatic thing for me because as I was coming across on the plane and I saw that rock again... (EXHALES) it just sort of cut me up. - REPORTER: It's, it's worse now than it was before? - Think so, for me. I d-d... (STAMMERS) - Mrs Chamberlain, is it going to be hard for you, the hearing out here? - It'll probably be less hard for me than for Michael, because I think I got a lot of the day initially, whereas Michael sort of tuned himself out at the time, and, uh, he's, sort of, now coming back in. And he's got to deal with it, where I already have, and the second time's not so hard. - The inquest travelled to Uluru and learnt of a number of police forensic mistakes. Straight after Azaria's disappearance, a blood spray was identified in the tent, but scientific examination of the tent was delayed. The police camera was broken and couldn't record the details of the site. A week later when the jumpsuit was found by a Victorian couple, Wally and Margot Goodwin, the police camera was still broken and a professional photographer was brought in. - We went to the first coroner's inquest. Still hadn't met Lindy or anything at the time, and some other witnesses had been on the stand. I finally got to go on the stand and then they asked me if I'd look at the photos that the police had taken. They said, oh, could I show the court the way the clothing was found? And cos I said, 'Oh, none of these show the way the clothing was found.' Cos they said, 'What do you mean none of the photos show the way the clothing was found?' I said, 'Well, the first thing Constable Morris did was pick them up.' They said, 'Do you know he's denied touching the clothing?' I said, 'Well, I don't know what he said in his report, 'but...' I said, 'the first thing I said to my wife when I went back to the car was, '"You wouldn't believe it; he picked the clothing up."' - The inquest, also heard from Aboriginal trackers who were there on the night. - And we went out to Ayers Rock with the coroner and walked with Aboriginal trackers. And they explained how they followed the tracks of the dingo from the tent across the sand dunes. - Yeah, dingo. - Any particular dingo? A special dingo? One that you knew? - They replicated the marks in the sand where the dingo laid the baby down while it had a rest. All of that. - What sort of marks are they? * - I got a pretty good education very early on from people writing me letters. - 'When the dingo was close to me, I stepped out from behind the tree. 'This frightened the dingo, but instead of running away, it attacked me and I had to beat it off with a whip.' - 'I can remember very well what dingoes have destroyed. 'Young calves ` they have taken them from their mothers, and absolutely ate every bit of them 'and just left the skin. 'So how can anyone have to write to say they can't hurt a baby of that age, which would only be like jelly?' - The rangers had known that people were being attacked. Um, more than a fortnight before this baby disappeared, Derek Roff, the chief ranger, had informed the Northern Territory government of the danger of people being attacked. He'd sought ammunition to cull dingoes. - He wrote a letter to the Northern Territory and government, and I think it was two weeks before the Chamberlains arrived, and said the drought is on, the dingoes are starving and they're getting dangerous. That if we're not careful, and these words live in my mind, babies will be their next prey. - The West family had first-hand experience of the problem the night before Azaria disappeared. - There was Katherine sitting, writing up her diary, and there was a dingo standing about two feet in front of her. - We were camping there and we were camped next to the Chamberlains, and I was sitting outside our tent in a camp chair, and a dingo came up to me and started to circle around me. And I talked to it, and... as though it was a dog, but it didn't really respond, and it came up and bit my elbow. And I called out to my mum and she came and shooed it away. And, yeah, we were both a bit shocked by this, that it would be so brazen. - Dentist Kenneth Brown, whose previous experience was limited to humans, gave evidence based on his experiments with dingoes at the Adelaide Zoo. He claimed the holes on Azaria's singlet were not made by animal teeth. - Brown, the odontologist got so scientific that he brought the court to tears of laughter when he talked about his experiment of seeing whether a dingo could bite through the jumpsuit and singlet. He dampened his singlet, put a 10-pound weight in it and hung it over the eye tooth of the skull of a dingo overnight to see whether it could penetrate. It's no wonder everybody in court roared laughing cos it's like, what about the muscles and anything else, you know. It was ludicrous, but that's where forensic was. - Then there was the issue of Azaria's matinee jacket not being found. - We always maintained that if that were to be found, it probably greatly aided the whole of the investigation. Where that is, nobody knows, so. As time passes, of course, it probably becomes less useful to be found. But she was wearing that on the night of her disappearance, and, uh, we believe that would have perhaps solved a number of problems had that have been found as well. - Coroner Barrett took the unprecedented step of televising his findings, hoping to put an end to the gossip and innuendo. A huge television audience, around one third of all Australian households, tuned in to watch the coroner bring down his report. - I am certain that the evidence given by Pastor and Mrs Chamberlain was true, accurate, and corroborated by truthful, independent eye witnesses and the evidence of many experts. - Barrett was critical of the police for the inadequacy of its forensic investigation and the failure of the Northern Territory government to act on the warning that dingoes posed at Uluru. - I find that the dingo's possession of Azaria was interrupted by human intervention on the night of the 17th of August 1980. - LINDY: Barrett, it was almost a surprise when he came down with persons or persons unknown until we realised he'd had people sending him in letters making accusations that nobody had been able to check out. And he's going, yeah, there is a big question on whether somebody else later was involved. Later, he went, if I did it over again, I would have shut that door because I no longer believe there was any human involvement. - Well, then it's over, Michael. Is it finished for you now? - It's the start of another new life for us. It's been six months of disappointment and tragedy and humiliation, but we're still standing. - Any bitterness, Michael? Any bitterness? - No bitterness. - Have you sailed your story, Mr Chamberlain? - I don't know what you mean by that. - Do you think that people should be kept away from the dingoes at the Rock? - If the camping area was safe, things would be completely different. - In short, are you glad it's all over? - What do you think, sir? - Thank you very much. - Thank you very much. - We have something here, gentlemen, that you may like to... see. This... - Just go back a bit. - ...is a picture of Azaria as she really was. And to prove to the world that she was, as we said, the most beautiful baby. - In his finding, basically said, 'Look, the Territory has very, very shoddy forensic methods.' Well, that was attacking the Territory, and you don't do that. So that opened a can of worms that none of us realised. - The first inquest found that Lindy and Michael Chamberlain had nothing to do with Azaria's death, but formally introduced the notion of human intervention. - I believe that within days of that verdict, there was a decision at the top level of the government to get her behind bars. I was told by one person who was present that those were the exact words ` 'I want that woman behind bars.' Cos they felt that the Northern- that verdict that Dennis Barrett handed down had humiliated the Northern Territory and government and had ruined their tourism. - The Northern Territory had been self-governing for three years and hoped to soon achieve statehood. The government's philosophy was to get the Territory moving. Development and tourism were key. - So it's a chance to win your money back on a car to celebrate a sailing race where boats fly? Crazy! - Go a little crazy with Toyota. Buy any new or Signature Class Toyota and every time Emirates Team New Zealand wins a race * - Stung by the coroner's criticism of the forensics in the first inquest, the odontologist Kenneth Brown flew to London and met with Professor James Cameron, a forensic pathologist. With the permission of the Northern Territory government, Brown gave Cameron Azaria's jumpsuit, singlet, nappy and a dingo skull. Professor Cameron inspected the items. Brown reported back to the Commissioner of Police, Peter McAulay. Cameron was invited to Australia. Professor Cameron met with Chief Minister Paul Everingham, Commissioner McAulay and Detective Graeme Charlwood. Brisbane lawyer Des Sturgess was also consulted. Professor Cameron made a formal statement. He said Azaria could not have been taken by a dingo. He believed she was held as her throat was cut and that there was a bloodied handprint on the back of her jumpsuit. But the police needed to build a case and find a motive. - Listen, I've had a yarn with Campbell about another matter. - Yeah. - And, uh, he rang me last night. - I see. - OK? - OK. - Thank you, Neil. - Thank you very much, Des. - Bye-bye. - Bye-bye. - Chief Minister Everingham announced the inquiry into the death of Azaria Chamberlain would be reopened. - They had to search the other side of the world to find him because they couldn't find anyone on Australia to say what they wanted said. A lot of academics were approached who would not say what they wanted said. - It's very easy to bamboozle innocent people who are the subject of secret investigations because they've got no idea what might be coming. - In my capacity as Attorney General of the Northern Territory, I've directed Northern Territory Police to make further enquiries into the circumstances surrounding the death of Azaria Chamberlain at Ayers Rock on August 17th last year. - For the past few months, the Chamberlains and their two sons have been living at Avondale College in the town of Cooranbong outside Newcastle. They were attending church here last Saturday when they received the news that their daughter's case had been reopened. - Just before we were ready to leave for church, there was a knock on the door and I think it might have even been Aidan that answered. And there was cops saying the case has been reopened and we're here to do a search, and here's the warrant, and gone again. I didn't even read it cos he put it back in his pocket. If I had've read it, I would've seen it said murder on it. - They were living in a house very quietly on the college drive and these helicopters landed in a paddock just across the road. And very shortly afterwards, several cars full of media parked outside the house and they staked the place out 24/7. - There was a helicopter coming across and I was out mowing the lawn. I was inside the house with the mower running out in the lawn before it'd even come over the horizon. And just was... sort of had that natural intuition that it was someone coming in. Um, and they were hovered over the land in the paddock. - There were helicopters overhead before the police had left. They had crews of police officers knocking at the doors at the same time of the Wests, and the Lowes and the Whittakers and the Goodwins and the Habys and us. - It seemed like they were on a mission to get the Chamberlains. It's as if they'd been set out to get the Chamberlains, not to find out exactly what had happened. - Well, I can only say this ` that I believe the investigations will probably go several more weeks yet, and I can't give any commitment that they won't go longer than that. - Briefed on Cameron's statement, Northern Territory detectives spread out across Australia to find the evidence to fit his theory. The eyewitnesses were reinterviewed. Not one changed their account of what happened that night. - But the whole time they were there, the chap just kept going over the one question over and over again. Which is rather a long time for one question, which was the question of the cry. - Sally was told that she couldn't tell the difference between a baby's cry and an animal or something. You know, 'Just admit your mistake.' - Various things were suggested to me that could have been the cry, and as a matter of fact everything was suggested to me other than the fact that it was a baby's cry. - The detectives were very polite, but you could tell from their line of questioning they must have been directed to ask us certain questions. And some things weren't recorded, and some of the unrecorded questions went like, um... Could be suggested that Azaria was dead when she was brought to the barbecue site by Lindy? - And then poor Greg, when he came out and said, 'Look, I watched Lindy go to the tent.' 'Oh, well, you're just trying to sure up your wife's evidence.' - That made us start thinking, you know, sort of, what misconceptions are the police really under? - I was interviewed by some detectives when I was on a school camp. And these two detectives sort of opened their conversation with me by saying, 'So everything you're saying is fabricated, isn't it?' And, um... (CHUCKLES) And I think I knew what fabricated meant, but I said, 'What do you mean?' you know. And they said, 'You're just making up a story, aren't you?' And so from there, I had to tell, I had to, sort of, give my statement on the basis that they knew that I was telling lies. - The interview was cordial enough, but they'd made their mind up. They said, 'Oh, we're not interested in tracks.' This is a murder enquiry. She's guilty of murder. We're just looking for information, in brackets, to prove it. VOICEOVER: Your spare pair, your glare pair, the flying-through-the-air pair. We could all use a second pair. (WHIMPERS) At Specsavers, get specs and shades for $169, including single-vision lenses. * - The Chamberlain home was searched and Lindy and Michael were driven separately to the police station. Detective Charlwood drove Lindy and recorded her without her knowledge as he tried to extract a confession. None was forthcoming. Charlwood put Cameron's theory to Lindy ` that Azaria's throat was cut and that she was decapitated. This accusation was leaked to the media. The Chamberlain's yellow Torana was impounded and taken for examination by New South Wales forensic biologist Joy Kuhl. Jim Metcalfe, part of Operation Ochre and briefed on Cameron's theory, joined Kuhl in examining the car. Kuhl's findings were not released, but used as part of the case to quash the findings of the first inquest. - He was very deeply concerned and he said, 'They're out to get us. 'We've got up the noses of the Northern Territory police and it's affecting tourism.' He said, 'They've come in and taken everything out of our house. They've confiscated my car. 'I have no idea what's going on. It just happened out of the blue, suddenly. Gone.' And... 'They told me,' he said, 'straight, we are going to get you.' That was before any trials had happened. He knew it was going to happen, cos they told him to his face. - This is Eyewitness News with Katrina Lee, Tim Webster and the entire Eyewitness News team. (FUNKY MUSIC) - Good evening, I'm Katrina Lee. - And I'm Tim Webster. - Heading tonight's bulletin, a new inquest into the death of baby Azaria Chamberlain. - Less than a year after they'd been cleared, the Chamberlains were back in the Territory for a second inquest. And if their world had gone crazy, so too had the media. - There was a different atmosphere with the second inquest right from the beginning, because someone, probably the police, had leaked some of the information to the local media and then that spread that there was evidence that the Chamberlains were involved in the death of the child. And so there was a lot of tension around the outside of the court with local people being quite vocal as they came into court. You could tell that the Chamberlains were wary and very concerned that all wasn't well. - The coroner chosen to be the second coroner was Jerry Galvin. He'd not long been a magistrate. The person standing in, as you'd say, the prosecutor for that inquest was Des Sturgess. - Then you get men like Des Sturgess. And you've got people coming out of the Crown Room crying because they're being harassed and saying, 'He said, when I do this...' and we'd be wondering why he was standing there doing this when he wasn't talking. That was 'shut up.' And not mid paragraph, not mid sentence, but mid word, 'Be quiet,' because they were about to say something he didn't want them to. So there's no such thing as the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. It's just put across what I want you to. - I could tell a baby's cry. I'd had enough time at the campsite to familiarise myself with any noises. And there's no question in my mind of wh- of what I heard. It just went on and on and on. I got the impression what I was saying, it just didn't seem to agree with what he wanted to hear. - The Crown presented a new scenario based on Cameron's statement and supported by evidence from Joy Kuhl. She claimed there were extensive blood sprays in the Chamberlain car which carried traces of foetal blood a baby Azaria's age would have. - Mike and Lindy Chamberlain watched impassively, as Mrs Kuhl pointed out visible bloodstains on both bucket seats and the console. Foetal blood was also detected as a spray mark underneath the dashboard on the passenger side and on the car radio. - Sounded like oceans of blood in the car, like it's awash with it. Well, the cops looked at it. They had it for a couple of hours at the police station, say it's clean and then these guys come in and say it's not. What's going on? Am I going nuts? - The lurid nature of Kuhl's evidence was given credence over the word of eyewitnesses and experts who contested her conclusions. - The blood evidence was totally faulty, and not only was the reagent used to test the blood, but the work of Joy Kuhl was totally incompetent. She was proved to be inexperienced and under a lot of pressure to come up with results. And she didn't do proper testing and independent verification of the different tests she did, and it had a lot of... caused an enormous amount of damage. - The nickname for Joy Kuhl in the legal circles in Sydney was Sergeant Kuhl because she always got the results that the police wanted. - Professor Cameron gave his evidence with the aid of video tape recordings, colour slides, black-and-white photographs and photographs taken using the technique of ultraviolet fluorescence. He said the pictures taken with this method had revealed heavy and even blood staining around the collar of the baby's jumpsuit. - You had men like Cameron who, before our case, had made such a stuff-up in the Confait case. He was severely reprimanded, but he had such a big name. You look at it, and men giving evidence and they're saying, 'Have you ever seen a dingo? 'You're giving evidence what a dingo does, have you seen one?' 'I saw one in the zoo yesterday.' 'Well, what experience have you actually had?' 'Oh, I had a terrier bite me on the leg one time.' - The Crown case asserted that in front of son Aidan, Lindy took Azaria to the car, not the tent, cut her throat, and hid her body in a camera bag, all in 10 minutes. And that later, with the help of Michael, she retrieved Azaria's body and buried it in the desert. - Mrs Lindy Chamberlain should be charged with murder. That's what the inquest into the death of Azaria Chamberlain has been told in Alice Springs. The counsel assisting the coroner, Des Sturgess, has also told the court that Michael Chamberlain should go on trial on a charge of being an accessory after the fact. (HAUNTING STRINGED MUSIC) - It created shock throughout the courtroom. He visibly, physically and emotionally, collapsed, Michael. Lindy just sat stony-faced, but the rest of the courtroom erupted. It was a frightening thing to see a couple confronted with that. - Coroner Galvin found there was sufficient evidence to send the case to trial. Lindy was charged with the murder of her daughter. Michael was charged with being an accessory. - There was a date given for the trial, and Michael and I had a conversation about trying again, hoping that we were going to be able to have another girl. Not that you get any choice much in the matter. But I became pregnant. I had the test. I knew I was having a girl. We never told a soul that we knew it was a girl or knew her name or anything else. Then all of a sudden, the Crown changed the date of the roy... of the trial because Professor Cameron refused to come from England unless he could go to the cricket at the same time. So they delayed, and put it off in order to get him to give evidence. (SCOFFS) TJ: Have I done enough to wear the jersey? Gotta sweat out that fear because this is bigger than me. I do it for my fans and my family. ION4 hydration. Sweat it out witih Powerade. (ENGINE REVS) Assertive ` that's how I describe my driving. On the open road, you're aiming for about 10 to 15 above the road sign. Nah, nah, passengers don't get to call the shots. I'm the one driving, so I choose the speed. (WEATHER REPORT PLAYS ON RADIO) (ENGINE REVS) If you wanna drive, then you can drive. That's what I always fire back. They just don't understand how you can drive quickly and safely. If anyone tells me to slow down, I give them the same response every time ` my car, my rules. (ENGINE REVS) * - Their trial begins on Monday at the Darwin Supreme Court. The Northern Territory law department have prepared for what's expected to be the most publicised murder trial in Australia's history by installing a television link to an adjoining building. - Mrs Chamberlain will be seven months pregnant when the charge is read to her tomorrow. - The Northern Territory's law department called a special press conference for all the journalists covering the proceedings. They've come from all over Australia. Some are filing reports for overseas media organisations. For the next 6-8 weeks or more, the eyes and ears of Australia will be on Darwin. - It's fair to say this is the most fascinating murder trial in Australia's history because there are so many questions that haven't been answered. But unlike every other Australian, the jury in this trial will have to answer those questions beyond reasonable doubt. - And it was clear that they had no idea of how much was against them strictly because of their own natural behaviour. They had no concept of just being themselves, how much that fuelled all this mania, uh, that was running across the country. They had no idea of the enormity of what was against them. You know, the problem was there was no one villain that they were facing. There were thousands of villains they were facing. - 'What did you do with Azaria's body? 'Put it down a septic tank? 'I shall make a prediction ` when your son Aidan grows up, 'he will turn against you and his father. 'Thou shalt not kill...' - '...from your dead daughter, 'but so many of us always believe you're guilty. 'You'll never escape it.' - 'Murderer. Will you also cut this babe's throat? 'You deserve life with hard labour.' - The trial of Lindy Chamberlain for the murder of her daughter and Michael Chamberlain as an accessory was expected to run for six weeks. It was billed as the trial of the century. Chief minister Paul Everingham appointed former Solicitor-General Ian Barker QC to lead the prosecution. He was assisted by Des Sturgess. John Phillips, a specialist in criminal law and a leading QC from Melbourne, led the Chamberlain defence team. He was assisted by Andrew Kirkham and solicitors Stuart Tipple and Greg Cavanaugh. - But the main interest centred around the arrival of Lindy and Michael Chamberlain at about 9.45. Mrs Chamberlain stands trial in the seventh month of her pregnancy. Ian Barker QC then rose to his feet to outline the Crown's case. He said even though Azaria Chamberlain's body had never been found, The Crown intended to prove that between 8pm and 9pm on the 17th of August 1980, her throat was cut at Ayers Rock. - But the day the trial started, and I saw at least 15 or 20 people, all women wearing T-shirts saying the dingo is innocent and holding up signs and spitting at her as she came into the trial. I'd never seen that before. - There was these people with all sorts of horrible slogans on their T-shirts standing, that we had to walk past every day. And you'd get some people jeering at you, others saying, 'Good on you, Lindy,' you know, 'we're with you and we believe you,' and whatever. And so you're walking through that cacophony, for me at least, my face kind of goes stiff and you can feel all the hostile vibes hitting you almost physically. - Every time there was a news report, there was a picture, and it was basically always the same picture. Lindy looking very angry outside a court or something like that. Every time, every time, every time. Now, you know how many news reports there were. You know, that becomes like Pavlov's dog after a while. 'Oh, look the way she looks. Look how she dresses. Look at that.' - I had to replace a number of wireless radios. They'd fly around the room. - WOMAN: What do you mean? - Well, you know, when you get some people on talkback and then you get some of the comedy... and you... you're shouting back at the radio, 'That's not true. That's not what happened!' You know, you'd walk the street and they would have these shirts with scissors and the blood and Azaria on it. And I came to this guy and I said, 'Really? Is that your best? 'What do you know about these people? What do you know about this? This is not cool, dude. 'How about you, kind of, at least, turn it inside out.' - That's how I met my friends Peter and Mary. That a Seventh-day Adventist pastor had knocked a guy out cold in the pub, that struck me as hilarious because he told him his T-shirt offended him. I guess that guy never... (CHUCKLES) ... wore the same T-shirt again. - There was a lot of supposed humour swirling around this, this whole hideous business. Much of it macabre in a singularly unpleasant way. I s'pose it had an Australian tinge to it, bit of a laconic larrikin tinge to it, but it was singularly unpleasant. - If you could have seen the level of hysteria, everyone in Australia was talking about it. You had signs going up, graffiti going up. Dingo jokes. - The coppers found a dingo-skin handbag in the Chamberlain residence. (LAUGHTER) They charged the dingo with being an accessory. (LAUGHTER) - It's very sick and in very poor taste. The little baby has disappeared. And then for somebody to jump on that sort of misery and produce this sort of book, I believe it's unpardonable. - Mum collects dingo jokes, for example. (CHUCKLES) Um, yeah. I mean, as long as they're new and unique ones and stuff like that. I believe she's got a collection of them somewhere. Um, so we're not afraid to tell dark jokes about things and stuff. - I thought some of the cartoons were really funny. That's where my dad's training came in, to look at it from other people's point of view and go, this is not about me. This is just a game that's being played. And yes, it's about my life, but it's not me. - Eyewitness News at six. - The Azaria Chamberlain case. Kate. - Yes, Tim. The murder trial opened in Darwin today, with the Crown prosecutor dismissing the dingo theory as a fanciful lie to hide the fact that Lindy Chamberlain had killed her nine-week-old daughter, Azaria. According to prosecutor Ian Barker QC, little Azaria was murdered and the only person who could have done it was her mother. - Well, Ian Barker was a brilliant lawyer. He had a very, very quick sense of humour. It lent itself to the prosecution of the Chamberlains and to be able to ridicule the dingo story as he did. He said it could not have happened like that. That was his argument and it lent itself to his style of presentation. - Mr Barker asked Mrs Chamberlain to explain why no blood was found on the tent flaps. Mrs Chamberlain then burst out crying and said... - So when it came to Ian Barker, by that time I had watched him work and people were saying to me, 'Oh, he's a good Christian. He's a nice man.' And I'm thinking, 'OK, you've got your own opinion, but I really can't stand the man.' And my antipathy towards him is going to be really visible in front of the jury who won't know why I'm angry. It looks more like you're guilty or anything else. - In the trials, she seemed to be OK. But I did see her coming and going to the courthouse. I can remember people at work saying she's guilty because she never cried. I said, 'The papers don't take photos of her when she's crying 'and the television doesn't... don't take photos.' But she did cry. And I said, 'She cried every day I saw her.' - The witnesses flew into Darwin to give their evidence. They were confronted by intense public and media scrutiny. In the witness box, they did not change their version of events. - Wallace Goodwin said he found the baby's bloodstained jumpsuit and clothing at the base of Ayres Rock, about 10 kilometres away from the campsite seven days later. He disagreed with police about the state and condition they were in when he found them. - So when I got on the stand and when he asked his questions, he'd say, 'Well, just answer yes or no.' And if you, if you started to go on, he'd stop you. - Then you get a man like Murray Haby who found the imprint in the sand. The Crown person examining made one mistake. He said, 'Is there anything else?' And all of a sudden... (EXHALES) 'Yes, I found tracks in the sand. I tracked the dingo. 'I found where an imprint of what I thought was the knitted cloth, where he'd put it down...' And then went... (BABBLES) all in one thing. And word, it was like, what? Where's this guy been hiding? It wasn't in his record of interview because they told him don't talk about the dingo, do not mention that. - And to my knowledge, that was the first time any of them had ever heard anything about that in the court. And it's the first time... (SNIFFS) ...Lindy had heard about it. - Today, a registered nurse, Roberta Elston, formerly of Ayers Rock, said she was called to the Chamberlain's campsite the night the baby disappeared and with others persuaded the Chamberlains to check into the nearby Uluru Lodge while the search for Azaria continued. She said she got into the Chamberlains' car and saw a black camera bag on the floor in front of the driver's seat. - The police decided that the baby was in the camera bag in the car that I rode in. They really grilled me about, 'Was it full? 'Did you touch it? Did you...' All sorts of questions. It never even occurred to me for one second that anything other than the dingo had taken Azaria. - Another witness, Catherine West, who earlier gave evidence for the prosecution, said the day before Azaria disappeared, a dingo ran up and grabbed her on the left elbow. - So, yeah, there are these, sort of, long full-scale pages of my mum's handwriting sort of detailing what happened, where, with whom, when. You know, divided into columns saying Catherine was here and Lindy was here, and this happened there, and... you know. And I look at those documents and realise just how much pressure my parents were under, and everyone was under to, you know, account for themselves. Yeah, there's that acute trauma, I guess, of being there, but it's that ongoing difficulty of dealing with people who don't believe you. - I do remember when Murray was in Darwin, he would ring home... - Every night. - Was it every night? - Yeah. I rang home every night. And we took... - And, and he was, he, he was, some nights, really angry, really stirred up about what was going on in the court cos he thought it was the wrong thing. - And also the news. I'd watch the news in Darwin and also read the papers in Darwin and tell Diana what... and she'd tell me what was on the Melbourne News. And sometimes you wouldn't know they were talking about the same case. They were so far apart. - And they were commenting on my outfits, and I said, 'Oh, come on, guys, get over it.' 'Well, you've got something new on every day.' And I said, 'So?' 'Oh, well, it's news.' And I said, 'Why is it news? 'Have you got a clean shirt on today?' 'Yeah. Why? Is it dirty already?' You know. 'No. What's different? You change your T-shirt or your shirt every day. 'I change my clothes, but women wear dresses. 'They don't have standard blue or white t shirts.' - The press were not for them. And it was a very blokey place, Darwin in those days, and be very blokey evenings, I think, for the press and everything. And they'd try and find out who would be the next witness and then print something in the paper about it the next day. - A particular policeman was distributing dope to any of the press folk who wanted it. I did a considerable trade. One of the press men saying to another one, 'It's a whole different game here.' And it certainly was. - There was a lot of beer drinking. There was a lot of, sort of, jumping off balconies into the swimming pool. There was a lot of pot smoking. - The most important thing of the, of the day before we started the case at quarter to 10 was journalists swapping Beroccas. - I had a police officer walk up to me during the trial, and he'd seen some of my reports. I don't know how. He said, 'We're not happy with the way you're reporting this. 'You're making it sound like she's innocent.' They didn't like the way I was reporting. And he got very angry with me and he actually drew his gun on me. And I started arguing with him about how dare you challenge me. And he pulled out his gun. That's the sort of town it was. There were jurors who would go to the local pub and the local police would walk up to them and say, 'You're gonna do the right thing by us, aren't you? You're not going to let her get off, are you?' - I only went once, and I was picked up at the airport by a taxi and the taxi driver said, 'Oh, we've got this trial going on. The woman's so guilty.' And, you know, everyone would say that to us when we saw them. * - For the remaining five weeks of the trial, the local Darwin jury was subjected to claim and counterclaim of forensic evidence, one lot of experts pitted against another. Was there baby blood in the car or in the camera bag? Were the blood tests reliable? Was that really a handprint on the back on the jumpsuit? Were the hairs in the tent from a cat or a dingo? Could a dingo's teeth cut through a jumpsuit and leave tufts? The testimony of the eyewitnesses was long forgotten. Lindy and Michael arrived on the last day of the trial to learn their fate. The defence team was quietly confident the jury would acquit as the Crown case was built entirely on circumstantial evidence. There was no motive, no weapon, and there was no body. Just over two years since Azaria's death, the case that had divided Australia drew to a close. - Ian Barker QC the prosecutor's final address was along these lines ` 'ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your patience. 'There's been many weeks of evidence. You've heard lots of it. 'But the simple thing is we as Northern Territorians know that dingoes don't take babies. 'We know that crocodiles do, but dingoes don't take babies. 'And these people from down south, 'they come up here and try and tell us what's happening in our territory.' But I believe that when he said those words, it probably tipped some of the jury over, because it became a tribal thing. It was a Northern Territorian thing versus the rest of Australia thing. - He worked absolutely within the law. He didn't do anything illegal. He was spot on the line, but he was right on the edge of the line. And I think justice and mercy go hand to hand. And as a person representing the justice of the law, you need to walk down the middle. - After summing up for five hours, Justice Muirhead told the jury if they accept the Crown's case beyond reasonable doubt, they must convict. If they didn't, they must acquit. - The jury's out. Barker had already asked our lawyers how much we would be suing for thinking he had lost, but it just didn't seem right. I took myself to the toilet. Very long toilet visit. Shut the door and I was praying about it and wrestling with the idea of what's to come. - Australia waited for the verdict in eager anticipation. In Darwin, there was a carnival-like atmosphere as a crowd of onlookers, including many families, gathered outside the court. - I was praying and I finally said, 'Lord, if there's something we're not seeing, 'if you've got some other plan in mind here, 'I'm willing to go in...' (BREATHES SHAKILY) VOICE BREAKING: '...if you look after my kids.' - You had to have been here at the Darwin Supreme Court tonight when the jury returned with a verdict and in fact, a large crowd did so. - There was a loud banging on the door. 'Lindy, the jury are back. It's time to go.' - The jury returned at about 8.40, and Justice Muirhead asked the foreman if they'd reached a verdict. He said they had. - And the thought came into my mind, 'You are going to prison.' - The judge asked, 'How do you find Alice Lynne Chamberlain? Guilty or not guilty of murder?' The foreman replied, 'Guilty.' - And sure enough, guilty verdict. And I felt calm but numb. - I'll never forget the look on Jim Muirhead's face, the judge. I think he blanched, and he never spoke for about 20 seconds. - He asked how he found Michael Leigh Chamberlain, her husband? Guilty or not guilty of being an accessory after the fact to that murder? He replied, 'Guilty.' At that moment, the atmosphere in the court was absolutely electric. The Chamberlains seemed to be in a state of shock and the jury had their eyes downcast. - Guilty. (IMITATES WAILING) You know, I was on the phone broadcasting live. - The media room has erupted as journalists rush for the phones and radio links to tell the world of this decision. - Michael was a totally different reaction. And I know going back down to the stairs later, cos he was held off for sentencing till the next day. I actually had to hold him and ask the guys behind me to grab him, or I think he would have gone head-first down the stairs. His legs just went from under him. - John always believed in the Chamberlains' innocence. And so I think it was very much a shock and made him very unhappy. But he was also very, very unhappy for the Chamberlains because he would come back to Melbourne and his life would go on. But their life was devastated forever. VOICE BREAKS: And that upset him always. - Fireworks going off on the streets. Horns were beeping, events were being interrupted. 'Good news, folks. That bitch has been convicted.' And cheers and shouts and all that sort of thing. And it was like going back to the Middle Ages or something like that. I felt quite... I'd never seen it before. - Outside the court, there were scenes which typified the division caused by this trial. One man in tears said to me, 'Darwin people don't deserve the vote, 'let alone the right to sit on a jury.' - I've wrestled with this for many years afterwards, cos on the night that she was convicted, I must confess, I burst into tears. - A lot of emotion, and Sean Flannery, the radio journalist, berated them, saying, 'You're supposed to be professionals.' - (LAUGHS) You'd have thought their grandmothers had just died. I shouldn't laugh about it, I s'pose, but very senior men, as you're well aware, uh, running around, 'Oh, this is wrong. This is wrong, injustice.' - Mrs Chamberlain was taken away from the court by the back door to Berrimah Prison where she'll serve her sentence. (SOMBRE MUSIC) - 'The verdict was given. 'We lay in bed in absolute stunned silence. 'Dawn came and Aidan awoke. 'I sat beside him, took his hands in mine 'and explained that the naughty people still thought Mummy had hurt little bubby 'and that they had put her in prison so she would not be able to come home. 'But I said, "You know, Mummy didn't hurt bubby because you were with her all the time. '"Yes", he whispered His face went pale. 'He dropped his head back against the bedhead and broke into deep, 'dreadful groaning noises with dry eyes. 'I would not wish such agony on my direst enemy. 'Soft footfalls on the carpet heralded Reagan's arrival. 'Soon he was perched on the bed beside us. 'The dreaded message was repeated. 'Poor little man. He sat there poker stiff, just looking at me with big, wild, frightened eyes. 'Oh, the agony, as I did my best to comfort those little fellows. 'If only the false accusers could have looked in on that scene, 'they would never have been the same again.' (SOLEMN MUSIC) (HAUNTING PIANO MUSIC) Captions by Steffi Dryden.