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While being held hostage, H.R.G. is subjected to Matt Parkman's unique brand of interrogation, revealing how he became involved with Nathan's government plot to capture those with abilities.

When a group of seemingly unconnected and ordinary people discover they possess superhuman powers, this group of strangers realise they may need to use them for a greater purpose - to save all of mankind. Keywords: age, USA.

Primary Title
  • Heroes
Episode Title
  • Chapter Four: 'Cold Wars'
Date Broadcast
  • Thursday 12 May 2022
Start Time
  • 12 : 40
Finish Time
  • 13 : 35
Duration
  • 55:00
Series
  • 3
Episode
  • 17
Channel
  • TVNZ 2
Broadcaster
  • Television New Zealand
Programme Description
  • When a group of seemingly unconnected and ordinary people discover they possess superhuman powers, this group of strangers realise they may need to use them for a greater purpose - to save all of mankind. Keywords: age, USA.
Episode Description
  • While being held hostage, H.R.G. is subjected to Matt Parkman's unique brand of interrogation, revealing how he became involved with Nathan's government plot to capture those with abilities.
Classification
  • M
Owning Collection
  • Chapman Archive
Broadcast Platform
  • Television
Languages
  • English
Captioning Languages
  • English
Captions
Live Broadcast
  • No
Rights Statement
  • Made for the University of Auckland's educational use as permitted by the Screenrights Licensing Agreement.
Subjects
  • Television programs--United States
Genres
  • Drama
  • Fantasy
  • Science fiction
'Previously...' Our only real option is to get the US government involved. I wanna round them up and put them in a facility where they won't be a danger. What would your hunter do if he knew you were one of them too? Who are you, and what do you want? I want you to get in the van. Mayday, Mayday, Mayday! Going down! Daphne! Daphne! Matt! If you don't want to see them punished, what do you want? I want them to pay. What are you saying to her, Nathan? What, are you telling her I'm unstable? I'm crazed? You lock me up? It's over, Pete, give up. No, this is the beginning. He's working for a secret programme imprisoning people with powers. I don't have a choice! There's always a choice! They've made it very clear to me that if I am not on board, Claire will be on that list! Your mother wants me to move out of the house for a while. She's right. I don't like this, Matt. Have you got any better ideas? It's a huge risk, being in the open. We should be laying low. And what? What? Run for ever? I don't know. Yeah, that's my point. We're being hunted. We have no idea by who, how, why... Noah Bennet has all the answers that we're looking for. Hey! Did you get it? Yeah. Phenobarbital. One dose of this, he's knocked out cold. What? What's wrong? Can't you just read his mind? Get what we need that way? No! We've been over this. Noah's too well-trained and never off his guard. Guys, look, I was a cop. You're a scientist, a nurse. We did nothing wrong. They turned us into fugitives. Drugging and kidnapping people? Look, I don't like it either, but this way gives us answers. Straight interrogation won't work. Not with Bennet. We need to get creative. Staying at the hotel? Yeah. So, uh...I'm actually looking for an apartment in town. You know anything? Uh...no. Welcome to Costa Verde. (MUSIC IN BAR DISTORTS) Looks like our friend here had about three too many. Don't worry... We'll get him home safe. Well? It's working... It's working. Ten people died last night in Ohio when a house spontaneously caught on fire. I'm thinking we should investigate sooner rather than later. It's over, Noah. It's all over. Primatech may have burned, but we have a lot of work to do. Primatech should have been shut down a long time ago. The company had a good run, but its time has passed. No. We got the job done. Yes, you certainly did. And I appreciate it. What is this? For your years of service. Pension, severance... And this is from me. Why are you doing this? Bag and tag. One of us, one of them. It's an antiquated system desperately trying to remain relevant. So we adapt and we get it right. I don't think we can, I don't think we should. I am tired, Noah. I have told so many lies. Maybe it's not too late to cobble my family back together. It's a good thing. You get to go home to Claire. This is everything you've ever fought for and you've won. This is all I've ever known. What am I supposed to do now? Take care of Claire. Take care of yourself. All right, so I'm gonna be able to get to these memories we're looking for. I'm gonna find out exactly how this whole thing happened, who's behind it and how they work. We'll find out how to stop hiding and start fighting back. And how far are you willing to push? As far...as I need to. This better be good. Face time at state dinners is hard to come by. Heard from Bennet? No. Why? He's off the grid three hours. Orders are to check in after duty. He didn't. How about Claire? Is she OK? Yes, your daughter's fine. I want every inch of surveillance on Noah Bennet. Everywhere he's been, everywhere he might go. You're spying on your own man? Nobody's above scrutiny, myself included. You and Bennet are both compromised. What's that mean? Your brother Peter, daughter Claire. Peter's treated like everyone else. And Claire gets a free pass. It makes both yours and Bennet's choices tarnished. Are you spying on me? You barely touched your prime rib. Everything OK out there? Still feels like we're sitting ducks. Come on. You can't rush an interrogation. This isn't an interrogation, it's torture. You're straining his entire system. You think I'm hurting him on purpose? I think you have a personal vendetta. You don't know what you're talking about. They killed Daphne, Matt. This is about helping everybody! Well, you're not helping him! He has done much worse to me. You're better than him, Matt. That's my point. The point is he's in pain. Does he have to be? The drugs are... It's not comfortable, I'm digging through his brain. To find a memory. Can we really trust this? Who knows what information is tainted by time and perception? We know nothing. He knows everything we need to. He's right. Do I have your permission to go back in now? Let's find out how this whole thing began. Need any help? Um...four-letter word, Thin Man dog. Asta. Asta. I'm gonna go get changed. If you're gonna shower, go. We have dinner in an hour with the Beulos. Who? Jenny and Ken. We're on the PTA with them at Lyle's school, they're nice. Oh, right. You didn't make any other plans, did you? No, no. Sounds great. It's nice to have you around. (KNOCKING ON DOOR) Noah. Nathan. Claire's, um... I have no idea, actually. At the mall, maybe? She's at the library. Secret Service thing. Ah, of course. I didn't want her to see me here. I wanted to talk to you alone. Do you have a minute? Yeah, yeah, sure. Come on in. What's going on? I've set some things in motion. Things? Everything's gonna change, and I just want you to know Claire's gonna be safe. What do you mean safe? What have you done? Noah, I got into politics so I could... help people, make the big impact. What have you done? I am certain you involved yourself with the company for the same reason. You sensed there was a need. Well, that need still exist. People with abilities are a threat. Primatech is closed. Primatech? With all due respect, Primatech never did the job that was required of them. And you have the solution. The US Government has the resources and authority to contain this problem. What are you talking about here? Rounding people up? For starters, yeah. Incarceration's the only way to make sure everybody's safe. Everybody? Yourself included? Certain exceptions need to be made, but... Is Claire an exception? She could be. But I need your help. What do you plan to do once you have everybody? Find an answer. We get the best team of scientists and find a way to eliminate these abilities for ever. If that's not possible? My abilities were given, they can be taken away. You know you're going to be seen as a villain? Locking people away. I'll play whatever role I need to. Claire won't look at you the same way. Claire never needs to know a thing. But she will. They all will and they will blame you. They won't understand. I have gone so far off the rails with this, so far around the bend. I nearly killed my own brother. And I just want a chance to make things right. What do you want from me? You spent 20 years tracking these people. I want to know how you did it. What is all this stuff? This is the last 20 years of my life. You kept it? It's hard to throw this stuff away. Noah, I am the US Government. We have loads of them. Weapons and stuff. I realise you don't need weapons. But you need perspective, and you need to control information. In 30 seconds, you undid a secret that we've kept for over 30 years. I can't unring that bell. I know you can't. OK. Look, I joined the company for a reason, and that reason doesn't disappear cos your mother decides to turn off the lights. I thought you'd enjoy the extra time with your family. There's only so many crossword puzzles I can do. He planned it all. With Nathan. They did it together. Hear what I said? Your brother is to blame for all of it. Yeah, I know. So? So? So what? I tried to stop him. It didn't happen. OK, but what are we gonna do? Nothing? We can't do anything from memories. I've never done this before. It's not an exact science. It's not science! Just go! That's not what I'm saying. But it's what you're thinking. Huh? You think you deserve this, to be hunted after all that you've done? You're reading my mind? I don't have to. You're an open book. You want to get caught, fine. Turn yourself in. We're not lugging your baggage... I could say the same about you! This is not about Daphne! Stop, both of you! We're supposed to be on the same side. You don't think what I'm getting here is real? Huh? Fine. Fine. Storage unit, combination lock. In here, it is filled with things we need - guns, money. Go. Go! I'll go. Try not to kill one another. Jackpot. Sir, I think I have something. Where? Gotcha. Where is he? Costa Verde. Breaking into Bennet's storage facility. It's a live feed? Yeah. Got a local team on the move to apprehend him. How does he know about Bennet's storage facility? Are they working together? I'm reserving judgement. I want him caught. He's in a room stocked full of guns. Am I clear? You're risking your own men's lives. I want Peter caught. No bloodshed. You gentlemen hear that? Phasers on stun. Yes, sir. We lost visual. Go now! Peter should have been back by now. Yeah. Just...give him some more time. I'll tell you why Peter isn't here. He's been captured or killed. Shut him up! I never checked in. They'll be looking for me by now. Come on, do it! Mohinder knows I'm right. My storage is under surveillance. You sent Peter where they wanted him. He'd say anything to get out. That doesn't mean I'm lying, and you know me enough to know that's true. We should go. He's right. Your only hope is to let me go and escape while you can, Matt. Wait a second. I'm not finished. You said you'd check in. With who? Who else are you working with? Show me. I am not letting you in my head. You can't stop me. Who is it? Come on, who is it?! Welcome to Building 26. I see the government spares no penny. Not on equipment, not on personnel. We are building an elite team. I'm glad to be part of it. There are a few ground rules I would like to implement. Primatech had a system. One of us, one of them. Working alongside people with abilities? It helps to even the odds. Yes, I read your files. I think we'd be better served with one of us and...one of us. I'm sorry? Or ten of us. 12 of us...and none of them. A lot of the people you're targeting are good people. They're useful people. This isn't about ethics. It's about trust. About us and them. By your own admission, your way didn't exactly work. Prisoners escaping, loyalty issues. It was a mess. A mess? For 20 years, I was successful in making sure that people like you never knew people like them even existed. Do not presume to know anything about me. I thought I was running this operation. The situation's become a bit more complex, Noah. It's important we look at everything from as many angles as we can. OK? Glad to see you got your old job back. How else would I randomly bump into old acquaintances? Something big is happening. I need your help. Why would I believe anything you say? Because it's true. I realise we haven't always played nice with each other, but you have a unique perspective. You've been ordinary and extraordinary, so you understand our fear. What exactly is happening? The government programme. And it is going to blow up in their face. I need you, Mohinder. I need your brain, I need your strength. Together, we can help people. We can save lives. What do you say? He came to you. What? I just saw you and him in a cab. You knew about this. You didn't tell him? All right, Matt, let me explain. Why didn't you tell him? I wasn't talking to anybody. I thought it was safest. It's why you didn't want me in his head. You didn't care about his health. You were afraid of what I'd find. No. Yes, he approached me. But I said no. You should have told me about this. Why didn't you tell me about this? (GLASS SHATTERS) What could I have done? Tied up on that plane, too. You think I don't regret any of this? You were my friend. You could have warned me, all of us! I didn't believe him! The least you could have... What? Told you that I could have stopped this? That I could have maybe prevented Daphne's death? If I had, I'd probably be the one tied up in that chair. Ah, come on! All right. Check back there. I've got over here. (GLASS TINKLES) Hi. We got to hurry. They found me, they'll find us. We'll get all the answers we're looking for, without the drugs. I want him to feel...everything. How do we fight back? You always have a plan. Share it. Get out of here while you can. How much time do you think you have before they find us? Maybe we should take what Peter has and run. You don't get a vote. What are you talking about? Nothing. Mohinder knew that we were going to get attacked by the government. Is that true? Bennet came to me, yes, but I didn't believe him. I didn't think I could trust him. Why didn't you say something? As if any of you would believe me. It's better we didn't. Can you get anything more? I was about to. Who's the guy you took orders from? I thought he was in charge. It turns out he's still middle management. Who is he? Who? Who? You. Got a minute? Think we got off on the wrong foot. I was hoping we could talk. What are we going to talk about? We're gonna be working together. I thought maybe it would be a good idea if we... What? Got to know each other better? Understood where the other guy was coming from. I already know where you're coming from. Where's that? You got a family, a home. Wife, boy, and your daughter, Claire, right? She's the special one with the soft spot in the senator's soft heart. That's right. You're a dime a dozen. And 11 of the 12 are unreliable. (CHUCKLES) You don't know anything about me. That's the whole point of this. You know? All that time you worked at your company, danced the fine line between company man and family man. I'm not much for dancing. You're oversimplifying it. I think you're overcomplicating it. Hunting them while harbouring them. To win this war, for good, it takes focus. And yours is just a little split right now. I read your files, too, Mr Danko. I've known men like you. Is that right? Sure. Simple, unconnected, take your work home with you, never off the job. You think that makes you perfect. Not perfect. Just better than you. These aren't terrorists, they're people. They're targets. This job is about understanding their humanity, not their ability. But you have to be human to do that. You're a valuable asset. But once we begin engagement, I have to know, are you going to take orders, or continue undermining me with every glance? You're the boss. Matt, don't do this. Don't push this any further. Peter, I got another address for you. What is it? No. If you go after this guy, you're dead. You're all dead. You can't undo it. This guy's in charge. Don't listen to him. This is why we came. We want to cripple them. We want to hurt them. This is the guy. No, Peter. You're making a big mistake. You're unravelling things you don't understand. Peter! Peter! (TYRES SCREECH) Secure all the exits. Wait for my order before moving in. I want eyes on the scene. You really should lock your windows. Sir. We have a situation. Tell me you've found Bennet. No, sir. Not Bennet. Did you mobilise the unit? I was waiting for your order. So you're the one that's driving all this? Making us run. Hide. Peter, right? You're the good brother. The passionate one. (SAFETY CLICKS) You want me dead? Huh? Do it. You want to die? No. But you came here with a mission, right, so... get it over with. (SCOFFS) You think you're innocent? That you're the good guy? You broke in to my house and put a gun to my head. You are the one who is hunting us. For good reason. And it's not ever going to stop. 'Cause if you kill me, I'll get exactly what I want. And what is that? They'll see what I've been telling them. They'll know just how dangerous you people are. He's right, you know. Hello, Nathan. Don't do it, Pete. How the hell did you get here so fast? I know you might think I'm the bad guy here, and maybe I am. But you've got to believe me when I tell you... I don't. I'm done believing in you. This isn't you. (GUNSHOT) All right. If you kill him, the order will come down to kill you all, and I won't be able to contain it. Shut up. Shut up! Let me figure a way out of this. That's right. You can't trust either of them. Not really. They're moving in on Matt and Mohinder right now. You pull the trigger, you're signing their death warrant. Why did you tell him about Parkman and Suresh? I just saved your life. You're welcome. (DIALS ON CELL PHONE) Moving, take him now! Go. (THUD) Nothing. (WOMAN GASPS) Hey! They don't know which room we're in. We should make a break for it. He's never going to stop hunting us. Even when you had the chance to stop, you didn't. Daphne's alive, Matt. They have her alive. You're lying to me! No, no, see for yourself. I won't fight you. I go back inside your head right now, we get caught. Go in. Find out, I'll hold them off. It's what you wanted. (MUTTERS) All right, go. (DAPHNE MOANS IN PAIN) WOMAN: This one's alive. Don't try to move your shoulder. Got a sedative? It's going to take three times the normal amount to keep this one down. Daphne's alive, Matt. (CRIES OUT) Come on. (GUNSHOT) Come on, all of you. (GROANS) (INDISTINCT POLICE RADIO) Matt, you're not a killer. This is only gonna get worse for you. You're gonna have to escalate beyond anything you could ever imagine. You should've taken the damn watch and stayed home. Drop it. Don't hurt him. (GRUNTS IN PAIN) Is there anyone else here? Nah, just me. (GROANS) Let me walk them out. Just...let me walk him out. (EXPLOSION) (WORRIED CHATTER) (SHOUTS AND GASPS FOR BREATH) (DOOR SLAM ECHOES) Take a hard look at yourself before you judge me. It wasn't too long ago you had me tied up. Don't use me to rationalise your actions. What I did, what you're doing is wrong. The curtain is up, the government is involved in this now. What you did, what Peter, what Matt did, you got in the way of what I'm trying to accomplish. And what's that exactly? The plane you were on, that was taking you to a facility that was meant to contain you. Your actions supported the hardliners who believe you should all be executed. Me? I still believe containment can work. You're going to round us up and imprison us forever? That's your plan? That's the first part. Then we're gonna find a way to control these powers. Eliminate them so we can go back to living what's left of our lives. But I need your help. That's not gonna happen. (STRAINS) You believe science has all the answers, right? Why don't you start with her? Daphne. She is alive. For now. But I'm losing that battle, and unless you help me, I can assure you my associates are going to kill her. And then they're going to kill you. And then they are going to kill my brother, and Matt. You'll all be dead. (STRAINS) Protocol after a man's taken prisoner is to grant him shore leave. Maybe you ought to take a few days off. My wife kicked me out of the house, my daughter's scared to death of me. What am I going to do with time off? You were right before. When you said I was weak because of my split focus. That's not going to be a problem any more. The job is all that's left, you have my complete dedication. You still think I'm compromised? They found your storage unit. Which, unless I am mistaken, led you right to them. You're the one that let 'em get away. Yeah, I admit, I underestimated them. They got away because Senator Petrelli let his personal interests cloud his judgement. Kid gloves are standard issue in this outfit. You and I have to change that. You agree? Absolutely. So? All things considered, went pretty well. I think he trusts me. Don't be foolish, Noah, that man trusts no one. He will continue to test you. I'm prepared to be tested, because he's got it all wrong. So does Nathan, for that matter. There's no halfway any more. You're gonna have to play the role, make tough choices to prove your loyalty to them, to their cause. You know me. I've always been comfortable with morally grey. (INHALES SHARPLY) No, no, this can't happen. All I wanted to do was find Daphne. This is why I didn't want to paint the future. Matt, you're not capable of this, OK? You're not a murderer. How the hell do you explain this? Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd Captions were made with the support of NZ On Air.
Subjects
  • Television programs--United States